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War of the Dragons PEC: LONG LIVE ALTARIA!
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Author:  ShinyLucario [ Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:  War of the Dragons PEC: LONG LIVE ALTARIA!

Hello everyone! To celebrate the Dragon's Year, yours truly has picked twenty draconic creatures to fight for the throne...democratically!
Hold your Rapidash! Da Rules wrote:
1. Each person can vote ONCE per round.
2. Explain your reasons behind your vote.
3. No changing votes! Think before posting.
4. The Pokemon that won immunity in a round cannot receive Boot or Immunity votes in the next round.
5. A round is over when any Pokemon receive 5 votes of a kind OR when four days have passed.
5b. Semifinal and Final might be different. Will update when the time comes.
6. Do not post between the end of a round and ShinyLucario's announcement of the start of the next round.
7. For any further questions refer to this. Or look through some older PECs to get a general idea.
8. This is my 1st PEC, so leave comments to help me improve! :)

Ladies and Gentleman, please welcome...

D-Nite {dragonite} That Barney with many invisible scales
D-Air {dragonair} That dragon who stole Milotic's marvelous scales
Arbok {arbok} The classic snake with a body as long as its owner's crimson hair
Gible {gible} With No Guard when it comes to Draco Meteoring Piplup
Shelgon {shelgon} I still don't get why dragons form pupae
Kyurem Image The overlooked dragon who won't shine until Gray
Druddigon Image Does this helmet match my skin?
Vibrava {vibrava} Evolves into my fav Dragon, nuff said.
Latias {latias} Not as famous as her bro, but a rad (See what I did there?) wall nonetheless
Altaria {altaria} NOT the Finnish rock band
Bagon {bagon} The cute baby dragon that I always nickname BACON
Feebas {feebas} Splash, Tackle, Flail, BLIZZARD, rinse and repeat
Zweilous Image The new and improved Doduo
Palkia {palkia} The dragon with the controversial design that our next contestant will continue to exploit...
Reshiram Image No comment about its appearance, PLEASE.
Haxorous Image A lumberjack's best friend
Kingdra {kingdra} The only Gen II Dragon, but has both Clair and Lance rooting for it
Lugia {lugia} No one ever remembers that it's NOT Water/Flying
Treecko {treecko} Best Grass starter ever, period
Scrafty Image Wears a hoodie LIKE A BOSS

Let the voting BEGIN!

Kyurem +1/Arbok -1
Gotta promote the new movie/Someone has to go, no offense Jessie

Gen V sprites courtesy of Bulbapedia

Author:  Haunted Water [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

{reshiram} +1 / {kyurem} -1
Not only typewise, but even in gray, I'll take my chances with my beloved Reshiram. Kyurem is hard to train and doesn't have a good moveset. Kyurem's only perk is the high amount of HP.

Author:  DragoBoy [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

{kingdra} / {arbok}
One of my favourite dragons / one of my least favourite Pokémon

Author:  Mektar [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:52 am ]
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{kingdra} / {shelgon}

Cool as all :censored: . This thing is a beast in battle. / What is this? It looks like a gray walnut with legs, not a dragon.

Author:  Eeveelution-Master [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

{latias} / {altaria}
My favourite legendary/It's a bird not a dragon imo

Author:  AEP: Master Trainer [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

Kyurem up, Feebas down.

Kyurem looks awesome, has a great type hybrid, and I can't wait to finally get my hands on one. Feebas, meanwhile, is a harder-to-train version of Magikarp, that is even harder to evolve, and isn't even a Dragon... My mission is to weed out the non-Dragons included for some reason in this PEC.

Here we go!

AEPMT ;) 8-) :mrgreen:

Author:  Shuckle-rock$ [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

{dragonair} / {gible}

D-air is one of my all time favorites (about #4) / Gible is more of a 'derp' poke. Also, in one of the few anime episodes I bothered to watch, Ash gave up one of his actually good pokes (gliscor) to make way for "OH MY GOSH DRAGON TYPE!!!!1" So yea

Author:  Dare234 [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

{kingdra} Up / {feebas} Down

Kingdra is one of my favourite dragon type Pokes.
I think that Feebas is a waste of pixels, to be honest.

Author:  ShinyLucario [ Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

*NOT A VOTE*

AEP: Master Trainer wrote:
...isn't even a Dragon...My mission is to weed out the non-Dragons included for some reason in this PEC.

That depends on your definition of "Dragon". I want more variety than a gallery of Dragon-types. Arbok, Feebas, Treecko, and Scrafty are included for being in the Dragon egg group, Lugia is because it's somewhat dragon-like and Kingdra is lonely.

Author:  ShinyLucario [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

*Not a Vote*

Samurott wrote:
{reshiram} +1 / {kyurem} -1
Not only typewise, but even in gray, I'll take my chances with my beloved Reshiram. Kyurem is hard to train and doesn't have a good moveset. Kyurem's only perk is the high amount of HP.

Samurott wrote:
{lugia} / {palkia}
Lugia is a great pokemon, even HGSS, it is still a great Dragon, regardless of it's typing, and what AEP says, it is better than Palkia. Palkia is just ugly and pointless. It is like Sinnoh's Zekrom.

Da Rules clearly wrote:
1. Each person can vote ONCE per round.
3. No changing votes!

*Ahem* I see a contradiction.

Also: I took out "per day" in Rule 1 to avoid further confusions, but still keep this in mind:
Official PEC Rules wrote:
2. Limit your participation to one post per day per PEC. The last thing we need is to have a PEC increase by three pages in one hour. Imagine some poor kid who votes and happily goes to bed, and then waking up to find that the final round is already up.


Also: I'll stop quote abuse now.

Author:  Haunted Water [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

Would you like me to delete one of them?

Author:  ShinyLucario [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

*Still Not a Vote, Just Making That Clear*

Samurott wrote:
Would you like me to delete one of them?

Yes, thank you. Preferably the later one, please.
Current Scoreboard wrote:
(Counting only Samurott's first vote)
D-Air {dragonair} +1/-0
Arbok {arbok} +0/-2
Gible {gible} +0/-1
Shelgon {shelgon} +0/-1
Kyurem Image +2/-1
Latias {latias} +1/-0
Altaria {altaria} +0/-1
Feebas {feebas} +0/-2
Reshiram Image +1/-0
Kingdra {kingdra} +3/-0
Lugia {lugia}
Haxorous Image
D-Nite {dragonite}
Druddigon Image
Vibrava {vibrava}
Bagon {bagon}
Zweilous Image
Palkia {palkia}
Treecko {treecko}
Scrafty Image

And...we have only 2 days left until the round closes.

Author:  JsXtm [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

{dragonite} / {feebas}

Dragonite has always been my favorite Dragon pokemon, and will likely be my consistent immunity vote this entire competition. The fully evolved form of the only true Dragon-type family from Gen 1, it holds a special place in my heart. / Feebas is the most annoying thing to catch EVER, especially in Emeraly where you have to actually pay attention when you're fishing. Kill it. Arbok is next, though, as an un-dragon-like snake. (Würms don't count in my book.)

Edit: Also, how did you choose these 20? It seems like there are some glaring omissions. Latios (offense > defense)? Rayquaza? Shelgon AND Bagon, but no Salamence? Vibrava but not Flygon? And why Feebas but not Milotic, or Treecko but not Sceptile? I feel like Hoenn got the shaft; only one of their 5 or 6 awesome dragon types/dragon egg group pokemon got included.

Author:  ShinyLucario [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

*LONG RANT ALERT*
JsXtm wrote:
Also, how did you choose these 20? It seems like there are some glaring omissions. Latios (offense > defense)? Rayquaza? Shelgon AND Bagon, but no Salamence? Vibrava but not Flygon? And why Feebas but not Milotic, or Treecko but not Sceptile? I feel like Hoenn got the shaft; only one of their 5 or 6 awesome dragon types/dragon egg group pokemon got included.

There's some noticeable holes in your question: who decided that offense is always better than defense? Only popular final evolutions and uber legendaries are worthy to be voted? You didn't complain that I have Kingdra and Haxorus but not Horsea and Fraxure? Because I picked seven preevolutions and not-too-popular Dragons from Hoenn means I'm neglecting it - which is in fact one of my favorite regions? Who decides which are "awesome" Dragons?
Before starting this PEC I decided not to let it be dominated by super popular dragons (*coughCharizardcoughDialgacoughGyaradoscough*). Instead, I spread my candidates between some basics, some teenagers, some fully-evolved, and some legendaries. Few popular Dragons (i.e. D-nite, Lugia) and mostly the weak, the overlooked, the physically or competitively unappealing - they, too, deserve a chance to shine.

A host is not obliged to appeal to his audience - especially not to every single one. I do, however, feel obliged to make myself clear. I did not mean to offend anyone, but if anyone do feel so, I believe it to be a subjective matter.

Also, I might have consciously or subconsciously left out Sceptile and Flygon and Milotic because I knew I'll be forever traumatized seeing people flaming my favorite Pokemon but of course I'm not going to admit that anywhere.

Now that's over, keep the votes coming!

Author:  ShinyLucario [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

After four sunsets passed, none of our candidates has received five votes of a kind as the round concludes.
Round 1 Scoreboard wrote:
D-Air {dragonair} +1/-0
D-Nite {dragonite} +1/-0
Arbok {arbok} +0/-2
Gible {gible} +0/-1
Shelgon {shelgon} +0/-1
Kyurem Image +2/-1
Latias {latias} +1/-0
Altaria {altaria} +0/-1
Feebas {feebas} +0/-3 RIP
Reshiram Image +1/-0
Kingdra {kingdra} +3/-0 WON...FOR NOW
Lugia {lugia}
Haxorous Image
Druddigon Image
Vibrava {vibrava}
Bagon {bagon}
Zweilous Image
Palkia {palkia}
Treecko {treecko}
Scrafty Image

(Remember that immunity grants Kingdra a free ride to Round 3)
LET ROUND 2 COMMENCE!

Scrafty Image +1/Arbok {arbok} -1
Scrafty is just awesome on so many levels. Be it an urban punk or an Italian mafia boss or a bulky sweeper, Scrafty is the way to go
*averts Jessie's Glare* Well...I need to give someone the shaft and I'm a big fan of picking on Gen I Pokes.

Author:  Haunted Water [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

Well, since I voted twice on accident last time, I'll just use my last vote that was deleted.
{lugia} +1/ {palkia} -1
Lugia is a great dragon, regardless of what AEP said last round. Palkia looks horrible and doesn't even look like a dragon. It is like the Sinnoh version of Zekrom. Lugia is amazing throughout all of the games that it appears in.

Author:  GofD [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

Druddigon +/Dragonite-

Honestly I like the looks of Druddigon, I dont mind using him in battle/ . . .. Im sorry D-nite reminds to much of Barney, I honestly dont play one that much

Author:  Shuckle-rock$ [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

{lugia} / {gible}
As I said in the other PEC, its sleek and cool / Same reasons. I also don't really like the other evolutions

Author:  Dare234 [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

{latias} / Scrafty

Latias is pretty awesome.
Scrafty is ugly and I'm not a huge fan.

Author:  AEP: Master Trainer [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

I said nothing about Lugia! It is not a Dragon, yes, but a Legendary Poke is one for a reason. Personally, Aeroblast is awesome, especially because of the sound that played with it in GSC! :P Now I will (slightly) contradict the above statement when I vote Lugia down [not right now], because it still is not a Dragon-type.

In all fairness, I did forget about the Dragon Egg group. I'm sorry that I did not think about that, but when you have done as much analysis as I have on Types of Pokemon (not involving Eggs), that's how I think about them.

Now that I hopefully explained myself, my vote for Round 2...

Kyurem up / {treecko} down

Kyurem is still awesome, and I don't even have one! Treecko, while perhaps my main Hoenn starter, is not fitting to be (in my mind) still in this PEC, due to its typing. Not only that, but it got nerfed by Nintendo not to pick a Dragon or Flying hybrid when it evolved, like the other two starters from Hoenn. Sorry, Treecko, thanks for the memories.

AEPMT ;) 8-) :mrgreen:

Author:  ShinyLucario [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

The Year of the Dragon began today. Huzzah.
Here we have the...
Current Scoreboard wrote:
D-Nite {dragonite} +0/-1
Arbok {arbok} +0/-1
Gible {gible} +0/-1
Kyurem Image +1/-0
Latias {latias} +1/-0
Lugia {lugia} +2/-0
Druddigon Image +1/-0
Palkia {palkia} +0/-1
Treecko {treecko} +0/-1
Scrafty Image +1/-1

...And I HATE it.

Seriously, I still have no idea why people make so much fuss over "Omigosh even though that's a perfectly fine Pokemon that I like it's not dragon-like enough so I'll boot it"
"Dragon" is not a strict criterion used to judge these Pokes, but more of a theme used to pick them.
Also imo just saying "that Pokemon is awesome" and "I don't like this" is not good explanation to support your points.
*SHORT RANT ENDS HERE*

SO. Keep voting!

Author:  AEP: Master Trainer [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

*NOT a VOTE*

For one thing, I've already voted. For another, I'm curious. Did you decide to take out so many Pokemon? I don't think they were technically eliminated...

AEPMT ;) 8-) :mrgreen:

Author:  DragoBoy [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

{altaria} / {arbok}
Fluffy cloud-dragon-bird thing that nearly swept my team in Pokémon emerald. 2 DDs and then EQ. Only a couple of lucky critical hits saved my nuzlocke challenge/Never liked it , (probably) never will. Losing nearly, if not, all battles in the anime didn't do it any favours either.

Author:  twistedturtwig [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

{arbok} / {dragonite}

Arbok has always been one of my favorite Poison types, and has a really cool design. Not to mention one sacrificed himself to save my starter in my Fire Red Nuzlocke. We will never forget you Farim!

On the other hand, Dragonite is big, ugly, and now spams Hurricane. I'd prefer the abomination to be eliminated as soon as possible. Gible, you're next! :twisted:

Author:  ShinyLucario [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: War of the Dragons PEC

*NOT A VOTE*

@AEPMT: Hehe, I just left out the ones that have no votes at all from the scoreboard. I shall not abandon my little dragons! But if that's confusing I can fix that :P

@DragoBoy: Indeed. That fluffy bird alone makes Winona an actually tough Gym Leader...without Ice Beam (or a good Poke to use it since you're nuzlocking) it can sweep about EVERYTHING if you let it dance for a while. I suppose you lost some comrades?

@Farim: I only learned who you are a couple minutes ago, but I'm touched by your great act of devotion and self-sacrifice *sob* Rest in eternal peace!

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