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Neo_Matrix Pokemon Ranger Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:10 am Posts: 765 Location: That place where burgers are made.	I'm not going to rest till I get pokemon in the HOF!!!! @ Lefties 252 Sp. Attack, 129 Defense, 129 Speed Modest Nature Male/Female =========== Flamethrower Surf Ice Beam Dragon Claw Most Aggron sets are physical sweeper sets, so this might be a change. The EVs and the nature is VERY important in this one. Sp. Attack NEEDS to be boosted severely. Strategy is to just sweep. _________________ sweet17: You look like the Farm Fresh guy lol bloodninja: Well, you look like you ATE the Farm Fresh guy.... bloodninja: Not to mention all the groceries.
Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:31 am

gg uninstall Bug Catcher Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:57 pm Posts: 8	My Cosdrum fable NEEDs to be in HOF F @ Leftovers Cute Charm 252 ATK, 252 SPD, 6 HP ============= Belly Drum Cosmic Power Return Softboil If you can't tell, wait til Gengar and phazer are gone, send this tank out and CP up. When they try to sub or whatever, Belly Drum, then softboil next turn. Then ]WNAGE. Here are logs for proof. aciddrops&lollipops sent out Clefable (Lv.100 Clefable)! --------------------------------- Starface's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #13 Rex Iudeorum's Starface: 70% HP aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 394 HP Begin Turn #14 Rex Iudeorum withdrew Starface! Rex Iudeorum sent out The King (Lv.100 Quagsire)! --------------------------------- Clefable used Cosmic Power! Clefable's Defense rose! Clefable's Special Defense rose! --------------------------------- End of turn #14 Rex Iudeorum's The King: 100% HP aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 394 HP Begin Turn #15 Clefable used Cosmic Power! Clefable's Defense rose! Clefable's Special Defense rose! --------------------------------- The King used Curse! The King's Attack rose! The King's Defense rose! The King's Speed fell! --------------------------------- End of turn #15 Rex Iudeorum's The King: 100% HP aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 394 HP Begin Turn #16 Clefable used Belly Drum! Clefable cut its own HP and maximied Attack! --------------------------------- The King used Curse! The King's Attack rose! The King's Defense rose! The King's Speed fell! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #16 Rex Iudeorum's The King: 100% HP aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 221 HP Begin Turn #17 Clefable used Return! (100% damage) A critical hit! The King fainted! Rex Iudeorum sent out Fugu (Lv.100 Octillery)! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #17 Rex Iudeorum's Fugu: 100% HP aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 245 HP Begin Turn #18 Clefable used Return! (100% damage) Fugu fainted! Rex Iudeorum sent out Starface (Lv.100 Omastar)! --------------------------------- Starface's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #18 Rex Iudeorum's Starface: 76% HP aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 269 HP Begin Turn #19 Starface used Rain Dance! It started to rain! --------------------------------- Clefable used Return! (76% damage) It's not very effective... Starface fainted! Rex Iudeorum sent out Dumbass (Lv.100 Slowbro)! --------------------------------- aciddrops&lollipops: uh oh Rain continues to fall. Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #19 Rex Iudeorum's Dumbass: 100% HP aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 293 HP Begin Turn #20 Clefable used Softboiled! Clefable regained health! --------------------------------- Dumbass used Surf! (106 damage) --------------------------------- Rain continues to fall. Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #20 Rex Iudeorum's Dumbass: 100% HP aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 312 HP Begin Turn #21 Clefable used Return! (100% damage) Dumbass fainted! Rex Iudeorum sent out Nerd (Lv.100 Lapras)! --------------------------------- Rain continues to fall. Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! End of turn #21 Rex Iudeorum's Nerd: 100% HP aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 336 HP Begin Turn #22 Clefable used Return! (100% damage) Nerd fainted! End Battle! aciddrops&lollipops wins! aciddrops&lollipops sent out Clefable (Lv.100 Clefable)! --------------------------------- Sceptile used Leech Seed! Clefable was seeded! --------------------------------- Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #24 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 345 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 60% HP Begin Turn #25 Sceptile used Substitute! Sceptile made a Substitute! --------------------------------- aciddrops&lollipops: omg not BB Clefable used Cosmic Power! Clefable's Defense rose! Clefable's Special Defense rose! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #25 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 320 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 49% HP Begin Turn #26 Sceptile used Seismic Toss! (100 damage) --------------------------------- Clefable used Cosmic Power! Clefable's Defense rose! Clefable's Special Defense rose! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #26 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 195 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 64% HP Begin Turn #27 Sceptile used Seismic Toss! (100 damage) Clefable's Cute Charm infatuated Sceptile! --------------------------------- Clefable used Cosmic Power! Clefable's Defense rose! Clefable's Special Defense rose! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #27 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 70 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 78% HP Begin Turn #28 Sceptile is in love with Clefable! Sceptile is immobilized by love! --------------------------------- Clefable used Softboiled! Clefable regained health! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #28 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 242 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 92% HP aciddrops&lollipops: yay. Begin Turn #29 Sceptile is in love with Clefable! Sceptile is immobilized by love! --------------------------------- Clefable used Cosmic Power! Clefable's Defense rose! Clefable's Special Defense rose! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #29 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 217 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 100% HP Begin Turn #30 Sceptile is in love with Clefable! Sceptile used Seismic Toss! (100 damage) --------------------------------- Clefable used Softboiled! Clefable regained health! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #30 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 289 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 100% HP Postal Service(rawr): g'dammit stop that Begin Turn #31 Sceptile is in love with Clefable! Sceptile used Seismic Toss! (100 damage) --------------------------------- Clefable used Softboiled! Clefable regained health! --------------------------------- aciddrops&lollipops: no eff you Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #31 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 345 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 100% HP Postal Service(rawr): lmao Postal Service(rawr): full male team Postal Service(rawr): XD aciddrops&lollipops: w00p. Postal Service(rawr): well this sucks aciddrops&lollipops: i have 3 female 3 male. aciddrops&lollipops: your team owned me last time aciddrops&lollipops: i think. Begin Turn #32 Sceptile is in love with Clefable! Sceptile is immobilized by love! --------------------------------- Clefable used Belly Drum! Clefable cut its own HP and maximied Attack! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #32 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 123 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 100% HP Begin Turn #33 Sceptile is in love with Clefable! Sceptile is immobilized by love! --------------------------------- Clefable used Softboiled! Clefable regained health! --------------------------------- aciddrops&lollipops: uh oh i might die aciddrops&lollipops: nm Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #33 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 295 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 100% HP Postal Service(rawr): omg Postal Service(rawr): im phuckeddddd aciddrops&lollipops: mhmm aciddrops&lollipops: yeap. aciddrops&lollipops: this set is leet. Ruby Soho (Dark) has started watching. aciddrops&lollipops: ruby aciddrops&lollipops: im owning Postal Service(rawr): ruby Postal Service(rawr): hes maxed atk def and spc def Postal Service(rawr): XD aciddrops&lollipops: lmao Ruby Soho (Dark): this is not looking good Postal Service(rawr): and he has rest aciddrops&lollipops: yup Postal Service(rawr): XD Begin Turn #34 Sceptile is in love with Clefable! Sceptile is immobilized by love! --------------------------------- aciddrops&lollipops: 12 softboileds left Clefable used Softboiled! Clefable regained health! --------------------------------- Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #34 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 345 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 100% HP Ruby Soho (Dark): how long can sceptile hold out? aciddrops&lollipops: not long. Begin Turn #35 Sceptile is in love with Clefable! Sceptile is immobilized by love! --------------------------------- Clefable used Return! The Substitute took damage for Sceptile! Sceptile's Substitute faded! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #35 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 320 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 100% HP Begin Turn #36 Sceptile is in love with Clefable! Sceptile used Protect! Sceptile protected itself! --------------------------------- Clefable used Return! Sceptile protected itself! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #36 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 295 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Sceptile: 100% HP Postal Service(rawr): >.> Ruby Soho (Dark): cute charm I assume? aciddrops&lollipops: yeah Postal Service(rawr): :- Begin Turn #37 Sceptile is in love with Clefable! Sceptile is immobilized by love! --------------------------------- aciddrops&lollipops: just sub plz Clefable used Return! (100% damage) Sceptile fainted! aciddrops&lollipops: uh oh Ruby Soho (Dark): is it a belly fable? Postal Service(rawr): yup aciddrops&lollipops: i made a new set aciddrops&lollipops: its aciddrops&lollipops: Belly / Cosmic / Softboiled / Return aciddrops&lollipops: cool, huh Postal Service(rawr): it's called PHUCK ME! Postal Service(rawr): my gar is dead Ruby Soho (Dark): oh Ruby Soho (Dark): cause gar would be good aciddrops&lollipops: i bring it out after gar is dead. Postal Service(rawr): and my aeros def is ** :- Postal Service(rawr) sent out Ninjask (Lv.100 Ninjask)! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #37 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 270 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Ninjask: 16% HP Ruby Soho (Dark): your in trouble aciddrops&lollipops: lmao Begin Turn #38 Ninjask used Protect! Ninjask protected itself! --------------------------------- Clefable used Return! Ninjask protected itself! --------------------------------- Ninjask's Speed Boost raised its Speed! Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #38 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 245 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Ninjask: 31% HP Postal Service(rawr): >.> Begin Turn #39 Ninjask used Protect! But it failed! --------------------------------- Clefable used Return! (31% damage) Ninjask fainted! Postal Service(rawr): ** aciddrops&lollipops: nt nub Postal Service(rawr) sent out Aerodactyl (Lv.100 Aerodactyl)! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #39 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 220 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Aerodactyl: 100% HP Postal Service(rawr): >.< aciddrops&lollipops: CH maybe aciddrops&lollipops: wait nm aciddrops&lollipops: CP aciddrops&lollipops: HAHAHAHA Postal Service(rawr): GOOO flinch hax Begin Turn #40 Aerodactyl used Rock Slide! (58 damage) --------------------------------- Clefable used Return! (100% damage) It's not very effective... Aerodactyl fainted! Postal Service(rawr): damn aciddrops&lollipops: nt nub Postal Service(rawr) sent out Alakazam (Lv.100 Alakazam)! --------------------------------- Clefable's Leftovers restored its HP a little! Clefable's health is sapped by Leech Seed! End of turn #40 aciddrops&lollipops's Clefable: 137 HP Postal Service(rawr)'s Alakazam: 100% HP Postal Service(rawr): freeze? =X Begin Turn #41 Alakazam used Ice Punch! (37 damage) Clefable's Cute Charm infatuated Alakazam! --------------------------------- Clefable used Return! (100% damage) Alakazam fainted! End Battle! aciddrops&lollipops wins! Score: 5 to 0 aciddrops&lollipops: GG uninstall. Last edited by gg uninstall on Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:12 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:37 pm

papersun Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska	gg uninstall: Impressive job with the Clefable. I'll add it to the list straight away; that sure was an impressive battle. EDIT: The Clefable I put on the list had some slight changes, that is to say, a Timid Nature (+Speed, -Attack, since after Drumming, Clef's Attack will be 999 anyway, and you need all the Speed you can get) and a 252 Spd/252 HP/6 SpDef EV spread. Attack EVs aren't necessary since, once again, Belly Drum will bring Clef's Attack to 999 anyway. Hope you don't mind. steinerrecliner: There's a reason Aggron doesn't Special Sweep; it's because it has a max Special Attack of 240 (which is, to say, quite crappy). I appreciate the persistance, however. tessa7338: We could take a look at the Dragonite, but Supersonic isn't a dependble enough move (55% = no good). But don't throw it away yet; it has some potential. As to Houndoom, we already have a Creative Houndoom set. You're gonna have to prove that the one you posted is better than the one we have, and frankly, Sunny Day/F-thrower/Crunch is almost COMPLETELY standard. Crosman: While I realize Onix is your favorite, for the sake of the battle could we update it to Steelix? Other than that, I like the set a lot. TO BE TESTED: Crosman wrote: {onix} lv100 @ Leftovers - Toxic - Substitute - Block - Dig/Earthquake Use block then toxic. Substitute and then remain using dig or Earthquake whichever you diside. For EVs and Nature: 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Atk, and either an Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk) or Impish (+Def, -SpAtk). TO BE GIVEN FURTHER CONSIDERATION: tessa7338 wrote: {dragonite} Supersonic Attract Thunder Wave Fill (Iron Tail or something) Parattractafusioner. Good base, but needs a slight moveset change . . . any ideas? Supersonic = not good enough. cries over the absence of a Swagger TM Makes me happy to see this thread is getting action again; keep posting. _________________ My band, from dust. CAUTION: Not hipster-approved.
Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:02 pm

Holifax Gym Leader Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:59 pm Posts: 1039 Location: Michigan	Is my onix moveset sound good? just wondering. _________________ [b]I'm Back Jack Crosman/Bambino 2013[/b]
Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:20 pm

papersun Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska	Cros, did you read my post? papersun87 wrote: Crosman: While I realize Onix is your favorite, for the sake of the battle could we update it to Steelix? Other than that, I like the set a lot. Yes, it's quite good. EDIT: Stink, this post kicked it over to a new page. Everyone who has responsibility of some kind in this thread (who is to say, sNOwBaLL, Venumeleon, and WPM, and anyone who posted a set over there), please go read the last few posts of Page 19. _________________ My band, from dust. CAUTION: Not hipster-approved.
Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:26 pm

gg uninstall Bug Catcher Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:57 pm Posts: 8	Haha, that Clefable is ownage. I thought her up. So beautiful, it brings a tear to my eye.
Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:04 pm

RaichuLatias Pokemon Master Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:50 pm Posts: 1205 Location: Southern Island	papersun wrote: TO BE GIVEN FURTHER CONSIDERATION: tessa7338 wrote: {dragonite} Supersonic Attract Thunder Wave Fill (Iron Tail or something) Parattractafusioner. Good base, but needs a slight moveset change . . . any ideas? Supersonic = not good enough. cries over the absence of a Swagger TM Isn't there going to be a Tutor in Emerald for Swagger? Though I still miss the Curse TM. Okay, how about, @ Leftovers/Chesto/Brightpowder Nature - Special Attack + Special Defense or Defense EVs = 252 Special Defense - 252 Defense and 6 HP Toxic Reflect Light Screen Rest Start with Toxic and then put up the screens, hopefuly Dragonite will be able to survive an Ice Beam with Light Screen up. Toxistaller/Toxannoyer @ King's Rock Nature - -Speed + Special Attack EVs - Special Defense - 252 - Defense - 252 and HP - 6 Bite Body Slam Mean Look Rest Body Slam them until they're paralyzed, then Mean Look them, and finish them with Bite (Flinching effect). Um paper, it may be better to leave it as an Onix, When Onix evolves, it becomes extremely slow, Onix has better speed compared to Steelix, but you could try it as both. _________________
Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:12 am

tessa7338 Pokemon Ranger Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:47 pm Posts: 603 Location: Red Sands	Thanks PS for giving me something THAT close to a HOFer. But Supersonic is the only confusing move that Dragonite learns, as egg from Goldeen family. Or is it? But let me try again anyway. Rain Dance Thunder Water Pulse Softboiled? Rest? Not invented by me, note. Someone else I know made it up, so i just merely CONTRIBUTED it. / Adamant @ Salac Berry Endure Reversal Mega Kick/ Brick Break/ something that hits Counter Endure + Reversal. You know the drill. _________________ <center> Avatar by CHARZARDRAKE \| Signature by Dragonite DeviantART \| Webcomic \| Photobucket Last edited by tessa7338 on Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:52 pm

tessa7338 Pokemon Ranger Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:47 pm Posts: 603 Location: Red Sands	papersun wrote: tessa7338: We could take a look at the Dragonite, but Supersonic isn't a dependble enough move (55% = no good). But don't throw it away yet; it has some potential. As to Houndoom, we already have a Creative Houndoom set. You're gonna have to prove that the one you posted is better than the one we have, and frankly, Sunny Day/F-thrower/Crunch is almost COMPLETELY standard. TO BE GIVEN FURTHER CONSIDERATION: tessa7338 wrote: {dragonite} Supersonic Attract Thunder Wave Fill (Iron Tail or something) Parattractafusioner. Good base, but needs a slight moveset change . . . any ideas? Supersonic = not good enough. cries over the absence of a Swagger TM Makes me happy to see this thread is getting action again; keep posting. Erhum... the emphasis on Houndoom was Overheat/ SDay/ Flash Fire/ Charcoal but I'll keep going! There aren't many Parattractafusioners out there and why can't we have one more! Unless you can somehow raise the accuracy of its attacks. Is there an item that does that? Lax insence? _________________ <center> Avatar by CHARZARDRAKE \| Signature by Dragonite DeviantART \| Webcomic \| Photobucket Last edited by tessa7338 on Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:57 pm

dragonfan149 Pokemon Ranger Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:30 pm Posts: 806 Location: PDX	Quote: Is there an item that does that? Lax insence? -Lax Insence slowly reduces yours foes accuracy. Here's my first creative moveset so it's probably not that good. , Calm, Leftovers 1-Tickle 2-Sing 3-Defense curl 4-Surf Pretty much Sing, then Tickle or use Defense curl. Surf is for damage. _________________ SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH THE CD! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?! DUST!
Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:20 am

Neo_Matrix Pokemon Ranger Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:10 am Posts: 765 Location: That place where burgers are made.	You could try Body Slam over Surf since Tickle doesnt work on Surf. _________________ sweet17: You look like the Farm Fresh guy lol bloodninja: Well, you look like you ATE the Farm Fresh guy.... bloodninja: Not to mention all the groceries.
Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:58 am

Benjamin Pokemon Ranger Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX	I have a set for a spinda! How does it look? @Lefties ~Thrash ~Skill Swap ~Facade ~OMIT/Teeter Dance The anti facade/guts combo-er thingie! Skill swap and get guts, then use thrash. Once you're confused, facade. Not that good, I know, but it's an idea.
Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:25 pm

tessa7338 Pokemon Ranger Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:47 pm Posts: 603 Location: Red Sands	Facade doesn't work like that. It is only for Paralyze, Burn, Poison. And anyway Spinda has OWN TEMPO AND THEREFORE NO CONFUSION!!! Maybe replace And i have found an even better Parattractafusioner! hugs myself Enter... drumroll (!!!) / Adamant @ ??? Thunder Wave Confuse Ray Attract Shadow Ball/ Perish Song/ Curse Adamant because you need all the Speed you can get, and who needs Attack for a Misdreavus? Perish Song is there for the Vital Spirits, Insomnias, Obliviousers, etc. Curse is good too if they overwhelm you but it MUST be coupled with Lefties/ Shell Bell. And another one, since I always put two. Rest Curse Shadow Ball/ Snatch Metronome Curse, then Rest. Insomnia wakes it up. Snatch and Metronome are there beacuse they are (somewhat) evil And on the topic of Dargonite's Swagger, there will be an Emerald tutor for Swagger and it can be taught to Dragonite. And another question, do you put the creative movesets among the "Movesets" section of the Psydex of that pokemon? And I have spotted an error in the HOF first entry. Dusclops does not have Levitate, Duskull does. Dusclops has Pressure. _________________ <center> Avatar by CHARZARDRAKE \| Signature by Dragonite DeviantART \| Webcomic \| Photobucket
Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:16 pm

gg uninstall Bug Catcher Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:57 pm Posts: 8	Uh, I'm not too sure about this, but I tried to Rest with Hypno on a CC and it didn't allow it to because of Insomnia.
Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:03 pm

Venumeleon Dragon Tamer Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:31 pm Posts: 139	Hmm... Dragonite not creative enough, and face it, even if it survives the Ice Beam it will be killed by another or die while Resting. Umbreon is alright, though I think going Mean Look before Body Slam is a better idea. Moonlight can also substitute Rest, if you want to. Azumarill is just a very not-so-good mix of moves. Defense Curl takes too long, and Sing's bad accuracy plus the fact that it takes at least 12+ turns to set up is pretty bad. Sorry. Er... Adamant actually increases Attack, tessa. And while it's good, it just doesn't good through because it's not creative enough, and Perish Song can be quickly avoided by switching.
Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:43 am

sN0wBaLL Lite Four Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore	Venu sort of summed up all that I wanted to say, so let me just add that if you have Vital Spirit you can't Rest and wake up immediately. In fact, you can't even Rest. _________________
Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:55 am

dragonfan149 Pokemon Ranger Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:30 pm Posts: 806 Location: PDX	Venumeleon wrote: Azumarill is just a very not-so-good mix of moves. Defense Curl takes too long, and Sing's bad accuracy plus the fact that it takes at least 12+ turns to set up is pretty bad. Sorry. No offense taken, it was my first one anyway. _________________ SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH THE CD! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?! DUST!
Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:28 am

papersun Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska	gg uninstall wrote: Uh, I'm not too sure about this, but I tried to Rest with Hypno on a CC and it didn't allow it to because of Insomnia. That's why you use Skill Swap first. _________________ My band, from dust. CAUTION: Not hipster-approved.
Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:46 pm

NeoPuff Bug Catcher Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:09 am Posts: 6	=) That was my old Sandslash set, but I had EQ over Sand Tomb. Old as in when this place still had an arena, and 386 was new.
Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:46 am

tiger10x Gym Leader Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am Posts: 602 Location: ...wuszat?	Umm... to make this go a little faster, can you just post some random poke and we come up with sets for it? It's getting harder to come up with unique ones. Example: You ask for a... umm... We give our sets for pelipper.
Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:52 pm

papersun Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska	We issue challenges when it gets slow . . . and since there's a lot of action, I think we can wait. But I will issue them again in the future. And besides, I think we already have a Pelipper . . . _________________ My band, from dust. CAUTION: Not hipster-approved.
Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:28 pm

Benjamin Pokemon Ranger Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX	Paper, since you're on right now, could you take a look at my other sets? The spinda, farfetched, and qwilfish?
Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:32 pm

papersun Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska	Everyone, please read (or REread) the first post of this thread. I've made a few rules about how and how OFTEN to post sets. Now, on to your sets, WPM: WPM'S SPINDA: While the idea has merit, Spinda's Attack merely fails to carry the moves, and I don't think it's got enough Defenses to survive the setup. But it was a good idea. WPM'S FARFETCH'D: Looks cool . . . we may need to test it to know for sure. WPM'S QWILFISH: I like it. And another I wanted to mention: RAICHU_LATIAS'S UMBREON: This strategy looks sound. I wanna have it tested. TO BE TESTED: Water Pokemon Master wrote: {qwilfish} @Leichi Brave/252 Attack, 129 Sp. Def, 129 Def ~Swords Dance ~Sludge Bomb ~Shadow Ball ~Revenge Water Pokemon Master wrote: {farfetch'd} @ Lefties \| (+Speed, -Sp. Attack or Attack Nature) EVs: 252 HP, 129 Defense, 129 Sp. Defense ~Substitute ~Baton Pass ~Swords Dance ~Aglity RaichuLatias wrote: {umbreon} @ King's Rock Nature - -Speed + Special Attack EVs - Special Defense - 252 - Defense - 252 and HP - 6 Bite Body Slam Mean Look Rest Keep 'em coming. Read that updated first post, please. _________________ My band, from dust. CAUTION: Not hipster-approved.
Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:47 pm

Benjamin Pokemon Ranger Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX	I'm sorry paper. Rules firmly in my mind now. And also, that's not my Farfetched. That's SS's. Mine is the endure-a-flailer.
Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:51 pm

Holifax Gym Leader Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:59 pm Posts: 1039 Location: Michigan	papersun wrote: [color=skyblue]Cros, did you read my post? papersun87 wrote: Crosman: While I realize Onix is your favorite, for the sake of the battle could we update it to Steelix? Other than that, I like the set a lot. Passed It right up lol. If I update Onix to steelix then I become week to fire. I have alot of trust in my onix, she may have bad stats but when she;s in battle for some reason I Own the leaders. I do have a steelix, but Im thinking of evolving my onix into another steelix and then training another Onix, i belive I have 6 or 7 onix. Yes, My Onix is a girl, My Boy onix is being trained as we speek. _________________ [b]I'm Back Jack Crosman/Bambino 2013[/b]
Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:24 pm

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