I just saw the topic of the pointless move in RBY. Now we have a lot of moves, so I'm asking what is the useless move?

We can think about the moves that we have now and the moves that will be introduced (after they introduce them).

Inb4 splash

I want splash to actually do something

Anything that lowers an opponents speed...

I wouldn't say speed lowering moves are useless, but ever since Trick Room (among other options) were introduced, it was quite the nail to the coffin for stuff like Scary Face (which is probably the best choice). However there's still a good amount of people who use Low Sweep and Bulldoze.

I'm still thinking in Barrage. This move is useless for me.

Let's face it; no recoil move (aside from the obvious exception of Struggle) is useless because although the deliberate self harm is not ideal, recoil moves tend to be powerful and useful (not always). An example would be Flare Blitz.

Agree with vaporterra. Also, we have Rock Head and Magic Guard; both prevent the pokemon from the recoil.

Also agree with Razor Wind being useless.

Imprison. When is it useful? Never. And it has fewer PP than Splash.

And besides, the strongest Magikarp can Splash over an entire mountain in one leap. Now that is bad***.

in pokelogic if a charmanders tail gets wet it will "die" yea?
BOOM instant use for splash!

Flatter. There might be some advanced techniques that can be pulled off with this move but... god lord.

Also, Synchronoise. Why.

Flatter's useful when the opponnent hits you and your pokemon is holding a Persim Berry.

I don't see you criticizing Swagger. Swagger and Flatter are the same move except Swagger boosts your opponent's Attack while Flatter boosts your opponent's Special Attack. A good move idea for Generation 6 would be a variation that boosts your opponent's Speed.

That's true. Maybe they'll change the confusion mechanics to make Special Attack a factor in confusion damage, however hopefully if they did that, they wouldn't let boosted Attack and boosts Special Attack overlap. I could talk about my idea more but I don't think many people are interested. And unless Flatter becomes available to many more Pokemon, it won't matter too much.

My idea for a Speed-boosting Swagger variant would be to add more strategy like if a Pokemon could use that move and Trick Room, for example. At this point more and more new moves will involve thinking outside the box.

all the weak and non-offensive moves.. >.>

Always figured Water Sport & Mud Sport to be pretty useless. Especially when one considers that the moves they're supposed to protect against (fire/electric) are already really weak against the types that can USE WS or MS to begin with. I have found stat-lowering moves to be useless as well. While I'm trying to lower your speed (or attack, or defense or whatever), you destroying me with moves that actually DO something. The shield attacks are about the same to me, I throw up Protect, your attack doesn't hit ... cool, but then you just destroy me on the next move - what the hell good did it do?

So far, I'm seeing the same things in X & Y with stat-lowering moves & shield-type moves. All of my team are getting these replaced with real attacks just as quickly as I can get them to learn them.