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Frost
THE POWER IS ON!
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:29 am Posts: 1581 Location: Purple Ranger
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Smogon's Usage Stats wrote: 14 | Dragonite | 60079 uses | 10.0251% Smogon's Usage Stats wrote: 28 | Salamence | 34864 uses | 5.8176% | DRAGONITE > SALAMENCE: KNOW THAT!
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Thu May 12, 2011 11:55 am |
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Krisp
Lite Four
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 6:21 pm Posts: 3471
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too girly and babyish, he looks like barney!
Salamence is manly though, I use him because he's tough and I'm not a sissy
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Thu May 12, 2011 12:05 pm |
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Ace
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:10 pm Posts: 683 Location: AU
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also now a proven fact: rule 19 - the more you hate it the stronger it gets Smogon's Usage Stats wrote: | 1 | Ferrothorn | 127997 | 21.3582 | Smogon's Usage Stats wrote: | 4 | Garchomp | 109670 | 18.3000 | Smogon's Usage Stats wrote: | 15 | Thundurus | 57828 | 9.6495 | :p
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Fri May 13, 2011 5:23 pm |
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Frost
THE POWER IS ON!
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:29 am Posts: 1581 Location: Purple Ranger
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Salamence went from Uber to sitting behind Dragonite in OU, so that rule is not always applicable. :O
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Fri May 13, 2011 5:37 pm |
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MasonTheChef
Pokemon Master
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:02 am Posts: 1575 Location: Michigan
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That's because Garchump dropped to OU as well, Mence is simply outclassed. Dragonite is used much more as a tank than a sweeper.
God Roost+Multiscale is annoying...
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Mon May 16, 2011 5:29 pm |
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Crunchy
Gym Leader
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:09 pm Posts: 3230 Location: island of giant spiders with shooting lasers
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They need to bring back Ruby and Sapphire's Dragonite sprite. The latest ones of Dragonite are not very cute at all. Anyway, for me, it's always been Dragonite > Salamence (I admit, the only reason I used Salamence was to stand a chance against wifi battles in the day, until I switched that mofo to Flygon). Everyone bar a few only love it again now cause of it's new dream ability. What up.
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Thu May 19, 2011 10:07 pm |
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Mutant_Mewtwo
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:37 am Posts: 582
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Mason and Crunchy pretty much hit it on the head.
Dragonite + Multiscale + Roost + Substitute + Thunder Wave + Dragon Tail = the most annoying set ever.
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Sun May 22, 2011 1:28 am |
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Zero Cool
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 1:17 am Posts: 563
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And I thought that my tank Swampert was annoying... Sleep Talk + Rest with EQ and Avalanche was a lot of fun. I have such a long ways to go before I am going to be competitive again, but now at least I know I have a goal in this new dragonite!
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Tue May 24, 2011 8:25 am |
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Shuckle-rock$
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:43 pm Posts: 667 Location: In a night-sea journey
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*BUMP* because... Bold nature EVs: 252HP, 252Def, 4SpD VS with Eviolite Bold nature EVs: 252HP, 252Def, 4SpD Stat- Blissey | Chansey HP- 714 | 704 Atk- 50 | 41 Def- 130 | 119 X 1.5 = 178SpA- 186 | 106 SpD- 307 | 247 X 1.5 = 370Spe- 146 | 136 Which means Chansey > Blissey!!!
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Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:08 pm |
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MasonTheChef
Pokemon Master
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:02 am Posts: 1575 Location: Michigan
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Except Chansey has almost half the S.atk, so all it can really do is toxic/heal bell, Wish(Only in PO) and Seismic toss(common in PO, but is typically without it in Wifi). and maybe an Ice beam or Flamethrower for the 4x weaks.
Blissey has lower def, but has leftovers recovery, can still wall special with ease, can semi function if hit by trick/knock off, and can actually pull some offensive.
So does it bug anyone else that even though it's been 5-6 years since the Wish Chansey giveaway, that Max IV Chansey ones are being used. You'd think they would have all been Blisseys by now..
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Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:30 pm |
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Frost
THE POWER IS ON!
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:29 am Posts: 1581 Location: Purple Ranger
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No because there will always be the fringe lunatic who specifically doesn't evolve a Pokemon because he likes it far more than its evolution, e.g. me and Magneton.
And yeah Eviolite Chansey vs. Blissey is in no way a blowout for Chansey due to her losing Ice Beam and therefore her offense in general. (I don't think Leftovers is that important when they both get Softboiled/Wish anyway.) But frankly it's amazing that Chansey's on the cusp of OU anyway despite A) Blissey also being OU and B) Chansey having no offensive capability outside of Seismic Toss. <3
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Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:17 pm |
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xerovene
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:16 pm Posts: 111 Location: North America. So far at least.
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Sorry for the slight necro but... When put in the right hands Dragonite is just as BA as Salamence. Thank you goes out to Shinon from the Nuzlocke Forums for drawing the most beautiful Dragonite to grace the earth.
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Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:46 pm |
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Frost
THE POWER IS ON!
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:29 am Posts: 1581 Location: Purple Ranger
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While the artist is talented, that is the most hideous looking Dragonite that I've ever seen and it seriously offends my eyes to see it rendered like that. Dragonite can still do "badass" without purposely being made to look horrifying ugly.
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Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:06 pm |
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xerovene
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:16 pm Posts: 111 Location: North America. So far at least.
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My problem with Dragonite isn't that it's cute. It's that there's a beautiful majestic blue dragon in Dragonair, and then it suddenly becomes some orange thing from Dragon Tales. I'm perfectly fine with it existing, I just don't like that that's what they did with Dragonair. And I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on that image. Putting some ominous dark clouds behind it doesn't make it awesome. Cut out the background and that's the same old Dragonite. Here's another Dragonite that I think has a much more regal appearance to it that fits better with Dragonair while being something you could probably appreciate more. I may be wrong though. http://rtradke.deviantart.com/art/Dragonite-149444372
_________________ My pokemon games Blue: Hiatus (just not wanting to play Kanto now) Yellow: Hiatus ("") Sapphire: Blaziken Sololocke (heading for Wattson) Platinum: Regular (preparing for Candice, grinding up my new Glaceon) Soulsilver: Regular (exploring Kanto and fighting random trainers to gain some levels to then fly around and take on all the gyms super quickly) White: Regular (post-game crap, not doing much currently, because most of the post game content is battles that I'm not ready for and stuff that requires HMs I don't want to use)
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DatVu
Gym Leader
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:35 pm Posts: 1350 Location: C-Town
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IT'S A RAPTOR WITH WINGS!
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