this is like the hottest 100 of all time, complete with commentary. can't wait to see who tops the list (or.. gets close to the top of the list)

I'm just happy Sneasel made the top 500.

Don't worry Frost, I'll get over this...somehow ;.;

Update Title: "Enter the Dragon Stans," referring to #465.

470. Glameow
(National Dex: 431; Generation: IV)
Glameow, much like its own evolution and Mothim, is one of those Pokemon that makes you think "Why did they do this idea again?" I mean, we had Meowth, Persian, Mewtwo and Mew in Kanto; Espeon in Johto; and Skitty and Delcatty in Hoenn. Is there some sort of unwritten rule that requires every region to have its own set of cat Pokemon? And, as I said in Purugly's write-up, cats are awesome, so I wouldn't even mind Glameow being the umpteenth cat-based Pokemon if it didn't look so stupid. First of it, Glameow has that really smug look 100% of the time. I'd actually love to punch the damn thing in its ugly face because it seems to be judging me. It isn't even that cute because its tail is spring-like for absolutely no reason (which also made it a bitch for people to design a forum icon for Glameow, and I don't think we ever got a decent icon for this crappy Pokemon as a result) and it looks like a crackhead. Make the Generation V cat Pokemon cuter than these pieces of sh*t if you insist on having them, GameFreak. Thanks.

469. Zigzagoon
(National Dex: 263; Generation: III)
Yes, it's true that Zigzagoon is frustratingly common in Ruby and Sapphire, but I'd be a huge hypocrite to bash Zigzagoon for that when I always defend Bidoof against forum members who hate it for being so common. So I don't hate Zigzagoon because it shows up so often in the tall grass Hoenn, although I DO wonder why GameFreak gave it to so many of the Trainers in Ruby/Sapphire too. To put it simply... I don't like Zigzagoon because it's an eyesore. It's supposed to be a raccoon but GameFreak, for some reason, wanted to implement a "zigzag" and "straight line" design on this family and the end result was Zigzagoon looking like an raccoon that had swallowed a stick of dynamite and exploded. Even its mouth has that f*cked-up zigzag shape and it makes the Pokemon, which might be otherwise cute, resemble a creepy little gremlin. I must admit that Pick Up is a damn useful ability, though, even though Linoone can accomplish the same thing without being a billboard for spontaneous combustion.

468. Kricketune
(National Dex: 402; Generation: IV)
Kricketune is another incredibly common Pokemon. Unlike a lot of people, I don't hate Pokemon just because they have a high encounter rate, but I'd be lying if I said I don't become kind of numb to the Pokemon after seeing it so much. I mean, I don't hate them, but it becomes hard to like the Pokemon just because they appear SO much throughout the course of the game that they start to seem less like Pokemon and more like generic roadblocks. Take Kricketune, for example. After you first hear its cry, you might think, "Oh, that's pretty cool," but hearing it every other wild battle makes it get very old, very fast. Kricketune's visual design isn't too hot either. The arms, which are supposed to make it look like a musical conductor waving his sticks, just look awkward, and the mustache looks pretty goofy as well. While I do honestly like the idea of having a sound-based cricket Pokemon, the implementation simply didn't turn out very well, and Kricketune is pretty useless in battle on top of that.

467. Kricketot
(National Dex: 401; Generation: IV)
A lot of my Kricketune criticisms also apply to its pre-evolution, Kricketot. The visual design isn't that great; when I first saw Kricketot, for example, I was convinced that it was a baby Pokemon that would serve as a bridge between Volbeat and Illumise. How do you manage to make a cricket Pokemon look like a pre-evolution for two firefly Pokemon? Also, why is Bide the only move that this thing can learn? There is no canon reason for this other than to annoy the player, much like Beldum and Take Down, but Bide is a much harder move to work with and Kricketune, compared to Metagross, is much less worthy of the effort of training up a Pokemon that only knows a single, bad move. Also, it looks sort of like a harp. What the hell?

466. Metagross
(National Dex: 376; Generation: III)
Here's the problem I have with Metagross... Hoenn already had a Psuedo-Legendary in Salamence. You could argue that Metagross was originally intended to be Hoenn's Psuedo-Legendary and then Salamence was created, but Metagross is so different from the other four Pseudo Legendaries that I'm convinced that things went the other way around, as Metagross doesn't have a 4x weakness and it's not Dragon-type or even remotely draconic. Metagross also has an appropriate name because it looks so stupid. It's supposed to be two Metang melded together, and a Metang is supposed to be two Beldum melded together. How exactly do you get a gigantic robotic spider-monster out of four pieces of the little scrap metal that was Beldum? It just doesn't work. Metagross also has a lot of stupid fans, adding to the reasons why I don't really care for it.

465. Salamence
(National Dex: 373; Generation: III)
I lurk around VoteForTheWorst.com, and the members there have a expression called "fantarding." It's basically the word to be used when irrational fans of a singer on American Idol go apesh*t over everything their favorite contestant does. The noun version of "fantarding" is "fantard," and, good God, does Salamence have a ton of those. Probably more than any other Hoenn Pokemon, Salamence has hordes and hordes of fans, usually (though not exclusively) irrational ones with poor English skills, who flip out over their favorite Dragon-type. Granted, it's a cooler design than Metagross, which is why Salamence beats Metagross in my rankings, but my issue with Salamence is that ancient Pokemon named DRAGONITE. Salamence is basically the Hoenn rehash of this Pokemon, and I've already documented my distaste for shameless rehashes. But Salamence is such a pathetic recreation of Dragonite that, I swear to God, GameFreak must have been doing test groups on little kids who said that Dragonite wasn't "cool" enough or was too "cute" or whatever and, on the seventh day, Salamence was born to serve as the "OMG COOL" version of Dragonite. It's blue, it looks mean, it comes with Intimidate, it's Attack-oriented and, honestly, it smacks of desperation because its whole reason for existing is to be a ferocious Dragon meant to attract little kids to the fanbase. F*ck off.

464. Groudon
(National Dex: 383; Generation: III)
So I have two main problems with Groudon, and I'll address the shorter one first. It's a generic "cool" design, and I know what Groudon's counterparts, Rayquaza and Kyogre, are supposed to be... but what exactly is Groudon? Its species classification says that it's the "Continent Pokemon," so does that mean that it's a giant walking landmass or what? Also, the bigger problem is Groudon and Team Magma's nonsensical role in the storyline of Pokemon Ruby. I suppose I could believe Kyogre causing a massive flood through its control over the seas (and even why Team Aqua would want more water on the planet), but what the hell does Groudon do? Does it summon intense beams of sunlight to cause a massive drought or something? And, in that case, why is it a Ground-type Pokemon instead of a Fire-type, especially when its pseudo-trademark move is ERUPTION?? And Team Magma are bunch of dumbf*cks, too, because they wanted to use Groudon to eliminate all of the water from the planet! Have these dumbasses never taken a biology class before? Humanity dies without water, so great job, rocket scientists! I also hate when there's a rivalry between two Pokemon and one Pokemon has a massive type advantage against the other, as is the case in Groudon vs. Kyogre. Such a badly handled idea for a Pokemon.

463. Prinplup
(National Dex: 394; Generation: IV)
This ranking might seem a little surprising if you know how much I like Piplup, Empoleon and penguins in general. But the thing is... Prinplup doesn't really look like a penguin. Look at its face; it resembles a pissed off owl more than a penguin. Also, Prinplup is just another typical middle evolution: it's not even close to being as cute as Piplup and it doesn't look as cool as Empoleon. Instead, it's simply an angry reject and I blame that little yellow ridge on Prinplup's forehead. It makes Prinplup have that always-pissed off look, kind of like Nicole Kidman's eyebrows.

462. Loudred
(National Dex: 294; Generation: III)
My good friend TonberryKing pretty much summed this one up for me, once upon time: "I liked Whismur until it evolved. I disowned the entire family after that." Loudred is a bad design, what with its Mickey Mouse radio speaker ears, that gigantic Exploud mouth and its rabid/crazy appearance in general. Also, middle evolution syndrome strikes again, even though I think that the middle evolution looks better than the final evolution in this case. Still, why couldn't have Whismur evolved into something cuter than this mess?

461. Trapinch
(National Dex: 328; Generation: III)
A boring Pokemon with an ugly jagged/razor-toothed mouth and a nonsensical evolution chain. Why does an antlion evolve into two dragonflies? And why the hell are NONE of these Pokemon Bug-types? It's so stupid. I still remember how I thought Trapinch was an one-stage evolution line when I first saw RS's new Pokemon; imagine my surprise when I learned that it evolved into those two cool Dragon Pokemon who have nothing in common with this thing! Seriously? It's also incredibly hard to raise due to its horrible speed and Defensive stats. And why does it have Arena Trap? So random and pointless.

Rating: 4/10 ("I mildly dislike these Pokemon.")
460. Baltoy
(National Dex: 343; Generation: III)
The only notable thing about Baltoy is that it's based on the dogu, which is a small, historic Japanese figurine. Now, I like when Pokemon have a clear basis in aspects of foreign cultures... but the dogu isn't interesting. A dogu served as the basis of the Yellow Ranger's Zord in Power Rangers: Zeo, and that's just about the ONLY reason I can find to care about the thing. Baltoy is about as interesting as its source of inspiration. It barely has a face and it's a very simple and boring design. It looks like a cheap toy that I should be spinning during Hanukkah. Also, why the hell is it Psychic/Ground? And why did it have time-altering powers in the anime? And why can't I bring myself to care?

459. Claydol
(National Dex: 344; Generation: III)
I could pretty much paste Baltoy's write-up here, changing the word "Baltoy" to "Claydol," and I'd have an accurate representation of my opinions of Claydol. So you might be wondering why I ranked Claydol above its predecessor? Well, it does have a more complex appearance than Baltoy, even though it's a literally bizarre design that looks kind of stupid. But the main reason why Claydol makes it this high and earns a 4/10 is this Pokemon card. It's actually cute! How awesome is it for a Pokemon with that many eyes to make a happy face? It's not just ^_^, it's ^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^! Unfortunately, Claydol usually looks more like O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O, so it's the creepier facial expression that is the norm and it's also why I can't justify Claydol going any higher than this.

458. Grotle
(National Dex: 388; Generation: IV)
So here we have yet another posterchild for Middle Evolution Syndrome. Grotle isn't as cute as Turtwig, nor is it as cool as Torterra, and aspects of its design just sort of irk me. The little shrubs on its back look pretty stupid; its shell looks too soft, which makes it look more like an armadillo than a turtle; and there's something wrong with Grotle's face that I just can't quite put my finger on. Maybe it's that glaring eye, or maybe it's just an awkwardly drawn positioning of its head, but still. If I think that there's something wrong with your FACE, things are pretty much hopeless, aren't they? Still, it's not that bad. It doesn't instill enough dislike for me to give it less than 4/10, after all.

457. Whismur
(National Dex: 293; Generation: III)
Refer to the quote listed in Loudred's write-up. Whismur was cute and likable until I saw its evolutions and then it just seemed a whole lot less appealing. Still, Whismur made it this high in the rankings and garners a 4/10 because it still is a bit cute and doesn't really offend me. I liked that the recurring Jigglypuff, in its last ever appearance in the anime, got to sing its song to a Whismur who, due to its Soundproof ability, could stay awake for Jigglypuff's entire song. That was a nice little piece of closure to Jigglypuff's story and we have Whismur to thank for it. Still, its evolutions suck and Whismur's face is permanently stuck in +_+ mode, so it's not that great.

456. Regice
(National Dex: 378; Generation: III)
The Legendary Golems are probably the most polarizing of the Legendary Trios. The Legendary Birds and Beasts seemed to get a warm reception when their games were released, but the Regis got just as many "These Pokemon are so cool!" reactions as "These Pokemon are so pathetic!" ones. I'm fairly neutral toward the Regis, however, because I think they're pretty boring. Regice, for example, is literally a giant slab of ice. That just isn't exciting. It also looks kind of like a giant fork, and the last thing I needed was a Pokemon who resembled a overgrown kitchen utensil. All three Golems have the problem of being literally faceless, which makes it hard for me to really like OR dislike them. Regice is the target of most of my frustration with the Legendary Golems, primarily because it's a Pokemon of a type that is so much more awesome than a giant ice cube, whereas Regice's counterparts blend right in with their own boring types. Also, it's a Defensive Ice Pokemon, which is inherently an oxymoron. So frustrating.


In the next update: Johto takes a few hits, the first fully-evolved Starter Pokemon appears, and two more new Sinnoh evolutions get chucked.

frost's failure to understand Pokemon's target demographic and his rose-tinted glasses are shamelessly blatant

but it doesn't make this thread any less amazing. :D

Um...

First of all, how am I failing to understand the target demographic? I know exactly what kind of "look" little kids go for. I know what Pokemon are popular with little kids. I was once part of the target demographic myself, too. It's pretty obvious to see when a Pokemon is meant to make little boys go "OMG THIS POKEMON IS COOL!": Dragon-, Fire-, Dark-type and Legendary Pokemon especially, as these are the kinds of Pokemon who have a LOT of fans around the Internet and they're also the ones who did well in PsyPoke Idol. They annoy me because "cool" has never been my thing over "cute." Are you saying that I'm mistaken and most little boys play Pokemon because they like CUTE things? No, most of them like ferocious Dragons and crap that looks "evil." That's the norm, not "I like Cherrim because it's adorable! Skitty is so cute and it makes me smile!"

Second of all, the rose-tinted glasses statement really kind of offends me. I've provided thorough commentary on why I've ranked each Pokemon as low as I have so far and not once has it ever come down to "I hate this Pokemon because it's a new Pokemon bawww!" It's usually something like "I hate this Pokemon because we had already had a lot of Pokemon based on this animal" or "I hate this Pokemon because middle evolutions are awkward" and not "I hate this Pokemon because it's from Diamond and Pearl." I judge Pokemon on a case-by-case basis, and people (some of whom are members of this very forum) who say things like "OMG I HATE ALL OF THE NEW POKEMON DP THEY'RE SO STUPID AND UGLY" piss me off. The sudden massive wave of love for everything Johto-based that didn't exist until HGSS got announced is irritating as well. I think that the Pokemon designs have become more stylized since RSE myself, which makes the overall batches of new Pokemon more polarizing, but for people to flip out over how Nintendo is "running out of ideas" and for fans to be so close-minded that they can't find ANYTHING that they like out of 100+ new Pokemon? That's not realistic, and I find that annoying.

I'm also not a fan of people getting criticized for being "nostalgic" anyway. If you take two equally boring Pokemon like Cascoon and Kakuna, which one am I going to like more? Probably the one who I knew for five years more. The longer something exists, the more time that a person has to build opinions and memories with the thing in question. Is that really having rose-colored glasses on? It's not that much different than saying "Well, Tangrowth looks kind of odd on first glance. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet," and then gradually forming a positive opinion of it over time, which is exactly what I did with Tangrowth. Yeah, overall, I prefer Kanto and Johto over Hoenn and Sinnoh, and I explained earlier that it's because Hoenn and Sinnoh's Pokemon are more stylized, but I don't think every Kanto/Johto Pokemon is great nor do I think every Hoenn/Sinnoh Pokemon is awful.

Kakuna has more class than you ever will, mister

also, I am disappointed by the lack of further updates in frost's most recent post =(

frost:

re your first paragraph, what I meant was that you act surprised and indignant towards Nintendo for targeting excitable ten-year-olds, as if you expected the games to be fluffy and cute.


far as I can tell, the preference for Johto has been around for a while; well before the announcement of HGSS, probably even before DPP. I recall that even before Munchlax was announced, people already proclaimed GSC as the "best generation".

re your third paragraph, fair's fair. I only properly got into the fandom half-way through the series, so my bias is skewed towards RSE (seriously, I seem to be the only person around who has relatively few gripes about Hoenn).

I don't blame Nintendo for doing that; I'm really just trying to get across that I don't care for Pokemon like that usually. There's also "cool" and "Nintendo is really trying to make sure the fanbase thinks this is cool!", which is a little desperate, though not surprising. The only one that really surprises me is Salamence because... yeah... it was basically made to be Dragonite, only "cooler."



Speaking strictly about the Johto Pokemon, it seems like only now that HGSS has been revealed that people give a damn. Before HGSS, the only Johto Pokemon that seemed reasonably popular were the starters (even then, people seem to be so much less vocal about liking the Johto starters than the other sets), Heracross, Ampharos, Tyranitar and the 5/6 legendaries. If you read threads about "Most Forgettable Pokemon," even the one on our forum right now or the one on Bulbapedia, Johto Pokemon make up the majority of the replies. Competitive battlers don't care too much about the Johto Pokemon because a lot of them aren't that strong. The anime had distanced itself from Johto's Pokemon because the Johto episodes were such a flop. Of course, many people did think GSC were great games and that the generation had a lot to offer, as do I, but the Johto love has been on overkill since HGSS were announced.

Mkay, I'm kind of straying now. Next update should be later tonight or tomorrow, depending on my progress regarding school work.

I'm sorry, I have to argue this point



Johto has the second highest number of Pokemon in the OU/BL tier, beating Kanto by 1 and Hoenn by 4. Additionally, Johto has (easily) the second highest percentage of OU/BL pokemon out of the whole generation. It loses out to Sinnoh in both categories, but that isn't too surprising since it is the most recent generation and is thus most in-tune with the current standards. Also, according to Smogon's most recent usage statistics, Scizor, the number 1 pokemon used in the OU tier, has a usage percentage of 31.81%. The number 2 pokemon, Gyarados, has a usage of 20.28% - a difference of over 10%. Now tell me competitive battlers ignore Johto.

Update Title: "But Gardevoir Has Cooties!," referring to #448.

455. Unown ............ ............
(National Dex: 201; Generation: II)
Because Ditto soon became a valuable Pokemon in its own right due to breeding, Unown is chronologically the first useless gimmick Pokemon of the franchise. Unown literally has no worth in battle, as it has subpar defenses, mediocre offenses and its only move is available as a universal TM. You really have to wonder what GameFreak was thinking in making a set of Pokemon based on the English alphabet because, in addition to many of the Unowns not even resembling the letters that they represent, it meant that this Pokemon would suck in 26 different ways. And then Ruby and Sapphire added two more Unown, either just to laugh at us or to teach players the value of punctuation (and, judging by some of the posts on PsyPoke, that didn't work). But I only really started to dislike Unown because I got back into the TCG in 2009 and... you guessed it... every Unown form had its own cards, which meant that I would be getting way more Unown cards than I should have in booster packs. One particularly hideous Unown/TCG memory was when I bought a Secret Wonders booster pack that had an Unown I card as my rare and the same Unown I card as my reverse holo. After declaring that I hated Unown on the spot, Unown's ranking plummeted that day.

454. Carvanha
(National Dex: 318; Generation: III)
It still looks angry and rabid, it's still a Dark-type and it's even less useful in battle than Sharpedo, but I like Carvanha's design a lot more because it actually looks more like a proper piranha whereas Sharpedo was a floating shark's head. And, in the TCG, Carvanha is just about the only documented instance of Tomokazu Komiya not sucking ass at his job, so there's that too. Although, a piranha evolving into a shark doesn't make much sense, and those lightning bolt-esque fins really make Carvanha look like it should be part Electric-type, don't they? Still, it's much more tolerable than its evolution.

453. Shellos (West)
(National Dex: 422; Generation: IV*)
Shellos is another one of those Pokemon who has alternate forms for no particular reason. I suppose having a Pokemon with different designs based on its geographic area is a decent idea, but I think it would worked better for the designs to differ between entire regions than to differ between the eastern and western halves of one region. Anyway, even though you start on the western half of Sinnoh, I prefer the eastern version of Shellos. Shellos-W is an ugly shade of pastel pink, it's boring to look at, and it resembles a clown in its Platinum sprite. It was also pretty annoying back when DP came out and idiots made a dozen topics asking if their Shellos was shiny because it was blue instead of pink. I'm mostly neutral toward this thing, though.

(* Fun Fact - Shellos and Gastrodon were originally designed for Ruby and Sapphire but got held over until Diamond and Pearl. If they had the pink Shellos in Hoenn and the blue Shellos in Sinnoh, I would have liked the idea of geography-based appearances more.)

452. Dunsparce
(National Dex: 206; Generation: II)
When Gold and Silver were first released, Dunsparce was probably my least favorite Pokemon ever, so it's actually pretty good that he made it all the way up to #452 and garnered a 4/10 rating, I guess. Dunsparce is supposed to be a mythical landsnake, which is why it has the Serene Grace ability and can learn moves like Glare, but the problem I have is that Dunsparce more resembles roadkill. In addition to Dunsparce's vacant crackface, its back looks inexplicably flattened and those tire track-like markings certainly don't help dispel the illusion. I also approve of Rhapsody's analogy of Dunsparce being a flying slipper. Still, the unintentionally comedy of Dunsparce being roadkill has kind of helped the Pokemon grow on me over the years, and Serene Grace also made Dunsparce far less useless in battle than it was in Generation II, so I don't really hate it anymore.

451. Pupitar
(National Dex: 247; Generation: II)
Pupitar is another that design that I have neutral feelings about because it's pretty boring. So why did it garner a 4/10 instead of a 5/10? Because, once again, we have a Pokemon who is a glorified cocoon and it garners way more respect than it deserves just because it evolves into Tyranitar. In other words, it's the prototype to Shelgon, but I certainly don't hate Pupitar more than its successor or a couple of the other cocoons. That's probably because Pupitar's markings make it look like it has an actual face instead of a pair of vacant eyes that are staring into my soul, which was the case for Shelgon and Silcascoon.

450. Blaziken
(National Dex: 257; Generation: III)
Blaziken is the first Starter Pokemon to show up on my rankings because, unfortunately, Blaziken has always seemed like the sore thumb of the Starter Pokemon to me. Blaziken is one of a select group of about four or five Hoenn Pokemon (including Flygon and Gardevoir) that instantly attracted swarms of idiot fans after the release of Ruby and Sapphire. Unlike the others, though, I really don't like Blaziken's design that much. When the Pokemon was first revealed, it did get some criticism for looking too much like a Digimon; I can kind of see where that thought comes from, as Blaziken does look pretty different from the Kanto and Johto Pokemon and foreshadowed that Hoenn was going to have those more stylized designs that I mentioned yesterday. Blaziken also looks more like a rubber chicken that I should be throwing at the opponent rather than using it to battle the opponent. Still, Blaziken is pretty fun to use in battle and it only gets mild dislike from me due to the combination of the dumb fans and the awkward design.

449. Rayquaza
(National Dex: 384; Generation: III)
Another Pokemon whose crazy fanatics lower my opinion of the Pokemon itself. Yeah, I'm really just repeating myself at this point, but I don't know what's so inherently cool about Dragons that look like they want to kill me. Other than that, Rayquaza's design is alright for the most part, but something about its appearance does kind of irk me. I think it's because of those red ridges along its body; they make Rayquaza look like he was made out of Legos or K'NEX something. Also, while studying Rayquaza's sprite to address why its design bothers me, I just noticed his little chicken-leg arms for the first time and I think it's kind of funny that such a powerful Pokemon has such wimpy, underdeveloped limbs. I also don't particularly understand why Rayquaza and Deoxys have been randomly portrayed as rivals in both the awful seventh movie and in the TCG. Can't they just go ahead and kill each other? I really don't care about their rivalry.

448. Gallade
(National Dex: 475; Generation: IV)
For Gallade's write-up, let's consult the very same test group that declared Dragonite too "cute" and led to the creation of Salamence:

Faceless Executive: "Hey kids, isn't that Gardevoir a great Pokemon?!"
Generic Male Brat #1: "No, she's a GIRL! Girls have cooties!"
Generic Male Brat #2: "My sister's Gardevoir is a BOY! But it has a dress and long hair! My sister says it's a "trap." I'm confused!"
Generic Male Brat #3: "Girls are wussy! I like swords and knights!"
Faceless Executive: [writing on a clipboard] "Note to self: little boys don't like girls. Also, male Gardevoirs are promoting an alternate lifestyle and we don't want the right wing to boycott our product, after all! Contact Ken, make him design a male version of Gardevoir. Swords instead of arms should be mandatory, not optional."

And the very next day, Gallade was born to serve a life of being idolized by little boys who thought that Gardevoir had too many cooties to train.

447. Milotic
(National Dex: 350; Generation: III)
For Milotic's write-up, I've contacted another very special guest commentator, PsyPoke forum's very own r-cubed! He writes:

"omg guyz milotic is so beautiful don't u think? i like to touch myself at night thinking about milotic and how beautiful she iz LOL! wat do you mean krips and frsot that milotic isn't beuaitful? the pokedex even says she'z teh most beautiful pokemon of them all! frost r u tryin 2 say that teh only problem u hav with milotic iz that she's a hoenn version of gyarados? umm wat iz gyardos i wasn't old enough 2 start playin pokemon until rubysaph were released LOL! anyway milotic iz much more beautiful than jynx, jynx is so ugly and racist, i'm white but i don't want to offend my black friends for liking jynx, so i like milotic because her skin is creamy smooth and white hehehehe!!"

Thanks for inspiring my mild dislike for Milotic, r-cubed! <3

446. Tyrogue
(National Dex: 236; Generation: II)
I have three problems with Tyrogue. The first is that it's a Baby Pokemon but it's also a Fighting-type who wants to look tough, so it doesn't even have the "It's cute!" reason to exist unlike the other Baby Pokemon. The second problem is that Tyrogue has all base 35 stats and, until DPP, could only learn Tackle by level-up, which meant that it was a bitch and a half to train. Finally, I don't like how Tyrogue looks like a Hitmonchan pre-evolution instead of a Pokemon who could realistically evolve into Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan OR Hitmontop. I would have given this thing Hitmonlee's stretchy legs, Hitmontop's dreads and Hitmonchan's face or boxing gloves. What was Ken Sugimori thinking when he took Hitmonchan's head and plopped it onto a generic Fighting-type Baby Pokemon? He totally botched up showcasing how Tyrogue connected the three Hitmons.

Rating: 5/10 ("I am pretty neutral toward these Pokemon.")
445. Lunatone
(National Dex: 337; Generation: III)
Tyrogue was the last Pokemon I disliked, so now you have 445 write-ups of neutrality and positivity to endure. Lunatone pulls off its theme much better than its counterpart Solrock, as a Psychic/Rock moon-themed Pokemon works much better for me than a Psychic/Rock sun-based one. Lunatone is also more useful in battle due to a better stat distribution. Still, Lunatone's look is a little too... basic. You get Luvdisc-esque "It took us thirty seconds to throw together this design!" vibes from Lunatone as the designers proceeded to whip up the most generic moon-based Pokemon possible. It's just okay.

444. Scizor
(National Dex: 212; Generation: II)
Scizor always seemed kind of unnecessary. Scyther was one of the only Kanto Bug Pokemon who actually had some potential to improve outside of RBY, so GameFreak addressed this by... evolving it in the very next games? What? However, what I do like about Scizor is that's not a traditional evolution. Scyther and Scizor have the same overall stat total with widely different distributions; if only Scizor's typing weren't so much better than Scyther's, there might have been more of a question of whether or not to evolve. Still, I have a lukewarm opinion of Scizor and that's probably because (incoming spoiler!) I've always had a pretty tepid opinion of Scyther as well. Taking a Pokemon that I personally think is pretty meh and sticking it in a shiny coat of red paint isn't going to make me suddenly think that it's awesome, although that trick certainly did work on a lot of little kids.

443. Combusken
(National Dex: 256; Generation: III)
The pre-cursor to Blaziken. It still looks a little like a rubber chicken Digimon that I should be throwing at somebody, but it's better than its evolution so I'm pretty neutral toward it. Another thing I forgot to mention in my Blaziken write-up is that I don't like how adorable little Torchic evolves into... these things. Way to let the cuteness go to waste, designers!

442. Magmortar
(National Dex: 467; Generation: IV)
Sure, Magmortar's face does look a little too clown-like, but I can't think of anything else to complain about. Unlike Electabuzz, Magmar did kind of need an evolution because Fire is such a godawful type in competitive battling, so I can't even knock Magmortar for being an unnecessary evolution like I did for its counterpart Electivire. The arm cannons are kind of neat. The design isn't awful. It seems usable in battle. If you can't tell, Magmortar is a pretty "meh" Pokemon to me, although it is rather annoying that Magmortar was more needed than Electivire but they gave an exclusive ability to Electivire and stuck Magmortar with Flame Body. Even Magmortar deserved better than that.

441. Metang
(National Dex: 375; Generation: III)
And here we have Metang, an anomaly of Middle Evolution Syndrome because it's ranked higher than both Beldum and Metagross. I have no real qualms with Metang. It's not a random piece of scrap metal who haunts my nightmares from swarming on Route 228 and it doesn't look like a giant metallic demon crawler. In fact, it doesn't even look angry in its sprite. It's an unoffensive non-entity.

In the next update: Bug-type slaughter, a Johto legendary and TWO Kanto Pokemon?! :O

but don't you know, painting it red makes it three times as fast! :D

Spiritomb is my favorite poke. :p

Spiritomb looks like a cheap, purple rip-off of the Dirty Bubble from Spongebob. The mouth, eyes, and general shape are almost identical.

This was a really cool thread ummmm let's get the next batch rollin out

I hate that show with quite a passion so i don't know what that is. BUT i think spiritomb looks pretty beast, especially his battle animation for platinum.


Also i like his typing, giving him no weaknesses and his potential on a team. I'm more into battling than anything (i don't watch the show or movies or anything of that nature).

Really hope to see a sableye evo in the next gen, as well as more dark/ghost typing combos.

I played pokemon 'cause cherrim was adorable and skitty made me smile ):

I loved your description for zigzagoon, and a couple of others made me laugh. agree with pretty much all of it too, except i think mothim is a adorable and deserves to be above five and i strongly dislike how the most annoying pokemon of all time and the ugliest pokemon of all time (zubat and tentacool respectively) haven't had mention yet. i suppose that my dislike for zubat does devrive somewhat from the concept that it attacks passers by and drinks their blood which did not appeal to nine year old me whatsoever.

Gallade, Beldum, Lunatone, and Metagross are in **** tier?
I know that just did not go down in here.