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Venumeleon
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:31 pm Posts: 139
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Water Pokemon Master wrote: Ouchies, I didn't look at the weaknesses. Well, since marowak's only weak to grass and water, which aren't physical attack, I think that would be the one.
EDIT: When I said up to 6-8 levels, I meant using swagger constantly.
Actually, Water, Grass and Ice, but you have the right idea.
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Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:32 am |
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RaichuLatias
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:50 pm Posts: 1205 Location: Southern Island
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Venumeleon wrote: Once again, T-Tar suffers from a 4x weakness to two common types; Ground (EQ) and Fighting (Brick Break).
Anything on Steelix, sn0w?
T-Tar is Rock/Dark so only Fighting is 4x effective. Though Steel, Water, Grass and Ground are also 2x effective.
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Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:18 am |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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I keep on thinking only rock is week to ice, because of all the ground/rock mixes, but anyway, I'll get back not at 2:00 AM.
ALso, this is in my team:
 @Lefties
Calm/252 Defense, 252 Special Attack, 6 HP (I think that's it.)
~Swagger
~Light Screen
~Counter
~Psychic
He get's killed by shadow ball, though.Swagger, light screen so they're forced to do a physical attack, and counter.
I'm in to swag counterers, aren't I?
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Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:04 am |
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tessa7338
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:47 pm Posts: 603 Location: Red Sands
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Myuutsuu wrote: About time I responded. Here's my "creative" Mewtwo:
Thunder Wave/Will-o-whisp/Hypnosis
Psychic
Helping Hand/Mimic
Future Sight
I'd use this in a double battle. Basically, put your foe to sleep (or Paralyz or Burn) Use Future Sight. Hit it with a Psychic, use Helping Hand on your ally, Future Sight hits it and if it hasn't fainted then your powered up ally can do some damage  !
I like this and I've made it up off the top of my head. (P.S. I'm not sure whether Mewtwo can learn Helping Hand or Will-O-Whisp but it's still a good idea).
<p>You could try  . It can learn Hypnosis (natural), Will-o-wisp (egg from Misdreavus), Mimic (move tutor FRLG), and Psychic (from TM29). That covers everything except Future sight, which i'm afraid you'll have to change for something else.
<p></p><p>AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY MOVESETS??? 
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Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:34 pm |
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Venumeleon
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:31 pm Posts: 139
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tessa7338 wrote: Myuutsuu wrote: About time I responded. Here's my "creative" Mewtwo:
Thunder Wave/Will-o-whisp/Hypnosis
Psychic
Helping Hand/Mimic
Future Sight
I'd use this in a double battle. Basically, put your foe to sleep (or Paralyz or Burn) Use Future Sight. Hit it with a Psychic, use Helping Hand on your ally, Future Sight hits it and if it hasn't fainted then your powered up ally can do some damage  !
I like this and I've made it up off the top of my head. (P.S. I'm not sure whether Mewtwo can learn Helping Hand or Will-O-Whisp but it's still a good idea).
<p>You could try  . It can learn Hypnosis (natural), Will-o-wisp (egg from Misdreavus), Mimic (move tutor FRLG), and Psychic (from TM29). That covers everything except Future sight, which i'm afraid you'll have to change for something else.
<p></p><p>AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY MOVESETS??? 
The only problem is that they are too common. We're looking for movesets with a bit of a twist.
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Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:59 am |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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 @ Leftovers
Toxic
Rest/Whirlpool
Curse
Amnesia
Ah, one of my fav Pokes  This moveset uses Wailord as a toxi-tank, nuff' said. Wailord has amazing Hp, and thus Leftovers will heal more Hp for Wailord than other toxi-tanks. Rest should be the first choice move for the second slot, but if one's feeling adventurous and feel that Leftovers can sustain Wailord's Hp, then Whirlpool can be used to trap the foe. What do you guys think?
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Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:19 am |
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Neo_Matrix
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:10 am Posts: 765 Location: That place where burgers are made.
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here is another moveset:
 @ leftovers
Impish/Own Tempo
Mimic-Imprison-Rest-Counter
Strategy: First, Mimic. Then Imprison. Then Rest. Then Counter. Repeat Strategy on all pokemon.
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Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:40 am |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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Your moveset is good, but I'm so sorry - We don't really consider any Smeagle sets as creative because, well, they can learn ANY move.
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Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:23 am |
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papersun
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska
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Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce to you our newest Creative Set Tester: WATER POKEMON MASTER!! Everyone PM him a pat on the back, and WPM, welcome to the team.
EDIT: Now that we have an additional tester, we need to compile a list of Pokemon to be tested . . . I'll get right on that . . .
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Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:12 pm |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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Can I make a suggestion to snowball's wailord?
I think it needs some extra firepower to take advantage of curse, i.e. EQ/Resturn/HP Fight
EDIT: Perhaps over rest, but all the moves are really needed, I'll see to it as is.
EDITII:
Test List
Snow's Wailord
Venu's Steelix
My Marowak
Venu's Likitung
SS's Dodrio
Paper's Scizor
Last edited by Benjamin on Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:16 pm |
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Venumeleon
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:31 pm Posts: 139
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Welcome WPM. Glad to have you around.
snow, that Wailord is great, excluding Poison or Steel types. I think Whirpool works better, or if you're looking for a bit more punch, you could try Chesto-Rest and Water Spout.
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Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:18 am |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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Finally, another dependable tester... Welcome to the team WPM
Happy testing ^_^
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Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:58 am |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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I need to do some more testing, but most of them got killed off with an ice beam/t-bolt before it got to charge all the way up.
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Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:34 am |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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You can also try tweaking the movesets around a bit and tell us which work best. You don't have to try out the exact movesets that are given.
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Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:44 pm |
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papersun
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska
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[color=skyblue]I had a Scizor a few pages back I would like to have tested. Let's see if I can remember what it was . . .
Scizor @ Leichi
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
~Substitute
~HP Bug
~Steel Wing
~Reversal
Sub enough to activate Leichi and Swarm, then Physical Sweep. Since all Scizors are BPers, I thought this might be fun to try.[/color[]
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Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:22 pm |
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tessa7338
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:47 pm Posts: 603 Location: Red Sands
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Can movestes be suggested for pokemon that are already in the hall of fame? If yes...
<p></p><p>{dusclops}
<p>Toxic/ W-o-W/ Curse
<p>Shadow Ball
<p>Pursuit
<p>Future Sight
<p>Dusclops makes one very nice tank, I hear. His Def and Sp. Def are both 130 based.
<p>{dragonite}
<p>Rain Dance
<p>Surf
<p>Thunder
<p>Iron Tail
<p>Rain Dance pulls up Thunder's accuracy and Surf's power. Just blast away. Iron Tail is super effective against irritating ice pokemon and will not be negated by RD. In case of Psyduck/ Golduck/ Rayquaza, just use Thunder on them and pray it hits.
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Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:11 am |
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Neo_Matrix
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:10 am Posts: 765 Location: That place where burgers are made.
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here is one for  :
Golem  @ Focus Band
Explosion
Rest
Double Edge (with Rock head)/Earthquake
Rock Slide
Basically, Explode, and if your lucky, Focus Band will endure the hit. Rest, then Sweep with Earthquake/Rock Slide. If you encounter another tough pokemon, Redo the whole process with Explosion. Simple!!
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Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:01 am |
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Myuutsuu
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:45 am Posts: 744 Location: Livin' it up in Shin'o
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I've given that moveset to...
Seeing as it can learn any move.
EDIT: Anyway here's one for Hypno, it might not be that good but...
Psychic
Future Sight
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Or here's another one for...
Zap Cannon
Recover
Psybeam
Tri Attack.
Tell me what you think. I can understand if they aren't "exotic" enough.
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Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:19 am |
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tessa7338
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:47 pm Posts: 603 Location: Red Sands
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Uh... If you all (including the rating team) don't mind i'm going to comment on it even though i'm not on the rating team.
<p>{golem}'s moveset shouldn't work because Focus Band cannot prevent the self-sacrifice of Explosion. (I think. I'm not sure.)
<p>{hypno}'s moveset is quite common and i don't think it will be accepted because the Hypnosis/ Dream Eater combo is already widely known and the others are just quite ordinary.
<p>{porygon} 2's moveset is ok, but i don't think it will be accepted either due to the fact that it is also not that "creative". Just take a look at the ones in the CM Hall of Fame and you'll see what I mean.
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Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:08 pm |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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All these movesets are not creative enough I'm afraid. Sorry about that.
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:00 am |
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Neo_Matrix
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:10 am Posts: 765 Location: That place where burgers are made.
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Here is a BPer set for  :
Medicham @ Lefties
(any nature)
~Calm Mind
~Bulk Up
~Baton Pass
~Psychic
Self-Explanatory.
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:50 am |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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Good enough, but which Pokemon needs both Bulk Up and Calm Mind?
We can test this if papersun and WPM is fine with it.
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:03 am |
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Neo_Matrix
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:10 am Posts: 765 Location: That place where burgers are made.
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sN0wBaLL wrote: Good enough, but which Pokemon needs both Bulk Up and Calm Mind?
We can test this if papersun and WPM is fine with it.
A mixed Sweeper may need both Bulk Up and Calm Mind.
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:59 am |
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Benjamin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:10 pm Posts: 740 Location: Houston, TX
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Right then. Sorry I haven't posted this, but netbattle hasn't liked me much.
Wailord~It's most certainly good, and leftovers helped, but it got toxic'd before it could get charged, and then it went downhill. It would be genius in-game, though.
Steelix~Accidently skipped this one, I'll edit this in later
Marowak~Got killed by surf before charge. Nuff said. Always will get killed by surf or razer leaf before charge.
Likitung~Me like, it worked quite well.
Dodrio~It was good, but it got killed by anything with T-Bolt, it didn't have enough defenses. Looked good on paper. Works In-Game. xD
Scizor~Very Nice. Swarm+Leichi+STAB=Good.
EDIT: I may use the scizor on my in-game team, minus sub for swords dance. It was good.
Last edited by Benjamin on Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:26 pm |
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tiger10x
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:37 am Posts: 602 Location: ...wuszat?
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What about this for a Shedinja:
 @ Focus Band
Nature: Speed up... anything / Ability: Wonder guard
EV's 255 Speed... anything else
Moves:
Grudge
Protect
Endure
Toxic
Pray that you don't die when you use Grudge and Toxic.
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:44 pm |
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